Monday, May 28, 2012

Mitt Romney's Casual Relationship With the Truth- His father didn't "march with Doctor Martin Luther King"

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Romney Lies, Lies, And Lies....

Ex Mormons know that Mormonsim encourages dishonesty. They catch Mitt in a big fib.

Summary:  Mitt Romney recently claimed that his father marched with Martin Luther King.  It turns out it never happened.  This is not the first exaggeration of Mitt Romney's claim of supporting the civil rights movement.  Mitt Romney claimed, in a newspaper article in 1978, both he and his father marched with Martin Luther King.   
Romney recently denied a basic Mormon doctrine and historical event that is essential to the foundation of Mormonism.  He stated the last time God spoke to a man directly was toMoses.  He did this to appeal to the Evangelicals.  Mormons understand this tactic as "milk before meat".   It is not lying, in their minds, if such misrepresentation improves the appearance of the Mormon church to the outsider.   Mitt Romney is demonstrating a common trait of Mormon apologists.  They will exaggerate or make wild claims without substantiation.  When caught on these statements, they will comment that the misunderstanding was due to how the information should of been interpreted.   In the case of marching with Martin Luther King, we should understand that he was speaking figuratively. 
Subject:Romney was speaking figuratively, not literally, on MLK.
Date:Dec 20, 2007

That's right folks, when Mitt said he saw his father George marching with Martin Luther King it turns out he didn't actually mean he literally saw his father George marching with Martin Luther King.

On Wednesday, Romney's campaign said his recollections of watching his father, an ardent civil rights supporter, march with King were meant to be figurative.

"He was speaking figuratively, not literally," Eric Fehrnstrom, spokesman for the Romney campaign, said of the candidate.


Subject:Romney and MLK - the hole gets deeper
Date:Dec 21 17:13

"Mitt Romney went a step further in a 1978 interview with the Boston Herald. Talking about the Mormon Church and racial discrimination, he said: 'My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit.'"

Subject:Update: What's the definition of together?
Date:Dec 20, 2007


A spokesperson for Mitt Romney now tells the Phoenix that George W. Romney and Martin Luther King Jr. marched together in June, 1963 -- although possibly not on the same day or in the same city. "

Gee, why would anyone think that if someone said they marched together that they would mean at the same time in the same city? The nerve of some people! ;)

Whether he did or did not though does it matter?

First, we are talking about his father not Mitt. Second, isn't it hypocritical to protest for civil rights when your own church discriminates? Finally, why does marching with MLK give you a pass.

It reminds me of the scandal over "Dog" the Bounty Hunter. I remember him saying how he thought because of his associations with various black people and doing various work that it was ok for him to use the word n*****.

So I guess Romney thinks that because his dad marched around a few times for civil rights that it makes it ok to tell black people that they are not worthy to be married eternally or be priests and will be white people's servants
in the CK.

Yeah, right.

Subject:When Joseph Smith saw God he was speaking figuratively, not literally, too I take it.

Subject:Yeah... just like...
Date:Dec 20 12:54
Author:Pete Dunn

Yeah... just like those "witnesses" saw the gold plates. Figuratively not literally.
Subject:Yes I Did. YOu did not... here is more...
Date:Dec 20 17:42

"He was speaking figuratively, not literally," Eric Fehrnstrom, spokesman for the Romney campaign, said of the candidate.

The campaign was responding to questions raised by the Free Press and other media after a Boston publication challenged the accuracy of Mitt Romney's account.

In a major speech on faith and politics earlier this month in Texas, Mitt Romney said: "I saw my father march with Martin Luther King."

He made a similar statement Sunday during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press." He said, "You can see what I believed and what my family believed by looking at our lives. My dad marched with Martin Luther King. My mom was a tireless crusader for civil rights."...

Free Press archives, however, showed no record of King marching in Grosse Pointe in 1963 or of then-Gov. Romney taking part in King's historic march down Woodward Avenue in June of that year.

George Romney told the Free Press at the time that he didn't take part because it was on a Sunday and he avoided public appearances on the Sabbath because of his religion....
Subject:From the Detroit Free Press as quoted in the above link
Date:Dec 20 13:08
Author:Tired of Wor  [George Romney did march on a different day and not with MLK and in an affluent area]

"Detroit Free Press: "With Gov. Romney a surprise arrival and marching in the front row, more than 500 Negroes and whites staged a peaceful antidiscrimination parade up Grosse Pointe's Kercheval Avenue Saturday. � 'the elimination of human inequalities and injustices is our urgent and critical domestic problem,' the governor said. � [Detroit NAACP President Edward M.] Turner told reporters, 'I think it is very significant that Governor Romney is here. We are very surprised.' Romney said, 'If they want me to lead the parade, I'll be glad to.'" ("Romney Joins Protest March Of 500 In Grosse Pointe," Detroit Free Press, 6/29/63")

Even when I was a kid, Romney was known for his support of civil rights. I remember my Barry Goldwater supporting Republican Dad criticizing Romney about it.

Subject:No dice
Date:Dec 20 13:13
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Even the author of the article said there is no direct proof other than the citation from the book which others have cast doubts on that Romney literally marched with MLK. Your quote does not say MLK was present. That G. Romney participated in civil rights marches is not in dispute. Besides what does it matter? Mitt is not George. And just because his father was involved in the civil rights movement does it make ok that the Mormon Church was itself discriminating against black people and many of its leaders made outrageous statements? If Mitt is so for civil rights why could he not bring himself to say it was wrong of the Mormon Church to treat blacks the way it did on Meet the Press? THAT is the real issue.
Subject:Blank's right - "Marches with" means in the same march nt

Subject:The problem stems from the fact
Date:Dec 20 17:06

that no one in the Romney clan has ever served in the military. Anyone who has acquires a visceral-level understanding of both the verb and the noun "march" - and are not prone to "imaginative" redefinitions of same.

Subject:Mitt saw Daddy and Martin marching together *with his SPIRITUAL eyes*.
Date:Dec 20 17:13

It's that easy to explain, people. His "people" say he meant the comment "figuratively." NOW they tell us!

What Mitt meant was that he saw them marching together with his spiritual eyes. Just like all the Gold Plates witnesses eventually explained. They didn't witness the plates with their earthly eyes. oh, no. That would be simply mundane. ANYONE could do that. No, they spoke figuratively and said they saw them with the spiritual eyes.

Mitt Romney: taking yet another page out of mormon's book of obfuscation. It's not about substance, it's about how good you look. And doesn't he look all nice and presidential?

I think so. Let's see, he's an idiot. And, oh wait, he's a liar. Perfect. He's Electable! Or at least the Supremes might think he's Appointable.

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